New TfL "s" stock - Page 2

A60K · 4th February 2010, 14:15

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Originally Posted by bengley

I was told by a Met driver that the A stock has another 25 years in it.

Not this old chestnut again! This driver, a qualified electrical and mechanical engineer is he - you do know that the maximum speed of A Stock had to be reduced because of damage to the bogie frames? They're not invincible, despite what the Neasden armchair rolling stock engineers might say!

Daniel · 4th February 2010, 14:42

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Originally Posted by bengley

The train which is at Neaden is reportedly broken at the moment. Probably just teething problems, but I have no doubt that it will be delayed and won't be in service from September.

Hadn't heard that - did you get that from a Met driver aswell?

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Originally Posted by bengley

I was told by a Met driver that the A stock has another 25 years in it.

Note that although drivers believe they can last another 25 years, that doesn't mean they will be around that long. I doubt the new trains will be delayed by that long anyway..

bengley · 8th February 2010, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Hadn't heard that - did you get that from a Met driver aswell?

Note that although drivers believe they can last another 25 years, that doesn't mean they will be around that long. I doubt the new trains will be delayed by that long anyway..

I get all of my intel from an inside source

A60K · 9th February 2010, 01:23

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Originally Posted by bengley

I get all of my intel from an inside source

A very nostalgic and Luddite one at that!

poshbakerloo · 9th February 2010, 10:08

I think the S Stock is gonna be quite good, I think the front cab end looks a bit odd tho, but other than that, it has AC which will be great!
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Originally Posted by LMS6202

Yes maybe they do. But I'd lay a small bet that there will still be complaint's about the fact that the windows don't open lad. If there is one thing I learnt when working or travelling on trains north of HH is that no matter what the weather somebody and sometimes several somebody's would open a window. Another thing will be the lack of high back rests to the seats. I still look forward to the fun.

What has happened here is a lack of DEEP consultation of the travellers in question. They have/are building these trains to a spec that is not flexible without really consulting the users at all.

It was only the A stock that had opening windows. All of the tube stock and C stock trains didn't have opening windows

Daniel · 9th February 2010, 11:22

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Originally Posted by bengley

I get all of my intel from an inside source

Fair enough if you don't want to point out who, but don't forget just because someone says something and they work for the company doesn't mean what they're saying is gospel truth - (that in includes things that I say

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bengley · 9th February 2010, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Fair enough if you don't want to point out who, but don't forget just because someone says something and they work for the company doesn't mean what they're saying is gospel truth - (that in includes things that I say

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It's weird because this certain driver knows an apprentice on the Underground called Daniel.

I wonder if it's you

MCR247 · 9th February 2010, 20:59

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It was only the A stock that had opening windows. All of the tube stock and C stock trains didn't have opening windows

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No, D stock do

A60K · 9th February 2010, 23:34

And all the 'Tube' stocks up until the 1959/62 Stocks (all now withdrawn) also had opening windows. The few trains of 1960 Stock were the first not to have opening windows, with the 1967 Stock being the first series production trains without.

Of course, if you count the end doors then every Underground stock has opening windows except for the S Stock

Daniel · 10th February 2010, 16:11

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Originally Posted by bengley

It's weird because this certain driver knows an apprentice on the Underground called Daniel.

I wonder if it's you

Possible, there are two of us at the moment. But I won't be able to say if it's me or not because I don't know who the driver is! ;D

campainr · 15th February 2010, 16:07

Does anyone know if/when more S-stock trains are heading down to London?

Dstock7080 · 17th February 2010, 16:33

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Originally Posted by jonmorris0844

I bet there are a number of windows in each carriage that can be opened with a key. I think any modern train will have these, allowing a guard (or driver?) to come through and open them if a train is stuck and starts heating up. It's obviously not just temperature either, as there needs to be fresh air to breathe!

There are no key operated windows on S Stock.

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Originally Posted by campainr

Does anyone know if/when more S-stock trains are heading down to London?

Hopefully "March" as the next one, with entry into service planned for "May".

bengley · 17th February 2010, 20:42

I was told by a driver today that they have discovered that the S stock is too tall to fit through one of the tunnels in the city and they're going to have to lower the tracks or something. If this is the case, they really didn't plan ahead.

He did say it might just be a rumour going round and it might not be true though.

**Mojo** · 17th February 2010, 20:53

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Originally Posted by bengley

I was told by a driver today that they have discovered that the S stock is too tall to fit through one of the tunnels in the city and they're going to have to lower the tracks or something. If this is the case, they really didn't plan ahead.

S stock is 3686mm high, D stock is 3620mm high, C stock is 3680mm high and A stock is 3890mm high. So if they really did get it wrong (I doubt it), their "wrongness" would be a whole 6mm.

Old Timer · 17th February 2010, 21:09

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Originally Posted by A60K

Not this old chestnut again! This driver, a qualified electrical and mechanical engineer is he - you do know that the maximum speed of A Stock had to be reduced because of damage to the bogie frames? They're not invincible, despite what the Neasden armchair rolling stock engineers might say!

A shame, I wondered why the A stock was not running as fast as I remembered.

I have been out and about riding the A stock through manipulating my work activities when I am in the UK and having a whale of a time but I did notice that there is no lively running anymore

They seem to run around sedately, bit like a race horse put into a donkey race.

And I see those Jubilee drivers seem to enjoy racing the A's away from Wembley Park as well, and winning

Blasted toy trains !"

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9th February 2010, 20:59	#23
MCR247 170397 & 398 rule! Posts a bit too much... Join Date: 7 Nov 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,084	[QUOTE=poshbakerloo;403839] It was only the A stock that had opening windows. All of the tube stock and C stock trains didn't have opening windows [/qoute] No, D stock do

9th February 2010, 23:34	#24
A60K Managing Director Join Date: 26 Jun 2008 Location: a capital city Posts: 853	And all the 'Tube' stocks up until the 1959/62 Stocks (all now withdrawn) also had opening windows. The few trains of 1960 Stock were the first not to have opening windows, with the 1967 Stock being the first series production trains without. Of course, if you count the end doors then every Underground stock has opening windows except for the S Stock

17th February 2010, 20:42	#28
bengley Conductor Join Date: 18 May 2008 Posts: 365	I was told by a driver today that they have discovered that the S stock is too tall to fit through one of the tunnels in the city and they're going to have to lower the tracks or something. If this is the case, they really didn't plan ahead. He did say it might just be a rumour going round and it might not be true though.